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	<title>Comments on: Tip #119: The bigshot will see you now</title>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://proprtips.com/2009/07/02/tip-119-the-bigshot-will-see-you-now/#comment-744</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brownie points my foot, he owes me a shout [Aussie definition].]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brownie points my foot, he owes me a shout [Aussie definition].</p>
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		<title>By: aimee</title>
		<link>http://proprtips.com/2009/07/02/tip-119-the-bigshot-will-see-you-now/#comment-741</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aimee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 06:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ignoring the rants here, you&#039;re right, that&#039;s crap and unprofessional. But my point would be - that&#039;s why you have a relationship with your key media - they know you, so they know you&#039;re trying your damndest to get the slippery client there and on the end of the phone, or ass in seat.
90% of the time you succeed, so the other 10% that they just decide to take &quot;that one short call&quot; two mins before the interview is due to start, or remember another appointment and cancel our window, the journo trusts that I&#039;ve been screwed around too. 
Relationships. That&#039;s what our jobs are all about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ignoring the rants here, you&#8217;re right, that&#8217;s crap and unprofessional. But my point would be &#8211; that&#8217;s why you have a relationship with your key media &#8211; they know you, so they know you&#8217;re trying your damndest to get the slippery client there and on the end of the phone, or ass in seat.<br />
90% of the time you succeed, so the other 10% that they just decide to take &#8220;that one short call&#8221; two mins before the interview is due to start, or remember another appointment and cancel our window, the journo trusts that I&#8217;ve been screwed around too.<br />
Relationships. That&#8217;s what our jobs are all about.</p>
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		<title>By: Surekha Pillai</title>
		<link>http://proprtips.com/2009/07/02/tip-119-the-bigshot-will-see-you-now/#comment-730</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Surekha Pillai]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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I agree with all the points you raise in your first comment, Bernard. Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I agree with all the points you raise in your first comment, Bernard. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard Savonet</title>
		<link>http://proprtips.com/2009/07/02/tip-119-the-bigshot-will-see-you-now/#comment-728</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bernard Savonet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[B-))
I did react to fast as well!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B-))<br />
I did react to fast as well!</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard Savonet</title>
		<link>http://proprtips.com/2009/07/02/tip-119-the-bigshot-will-see-you-now/#comment-727</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bernard Savonet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Surekha,
I am not sure to agree with you: this blog writes about PR. This does not mean that all PR is bad!

But telling PR people some of the &quot;great mistakes&quot; that they might do that will ruin their business with the press is rather useful right?

Neither did the blog pretend that all journalists are great persons and that none of them ever makes mistakes.

My experience on both sides has allowed me see most of the mistakes printed here, and journalists&#039; mistakes as well: dishonest, arrogant, stupid, stubborn... they have their share too. But you don&#039;t need to be told that, do you?

I&#039;m sure that as a PR person you are quite fine and do not repeatedly perpetuate the mistakes described here. 

Of course you can smile at some of the mistakes decriibed and that you&#039;re sure not to commit. That does not mean this blog is useless for you: . showing this blog to your clients is also a useful tool that you can use in some desperate cases, where all your huge efforts on educating your client simply have no effect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Surekha,<br />
I am not sure to agree with you: this blog writes about PR. This does not mean that all PR is bad!</p>
<p>But telling PR people some of the &#8220;great mistakes&#8221; that they might do that will ruin their business with the press is rather useful right?</p>
<p>Neither did the blog pretend that all journalists are great persons and that none of them ever makes mistakes.</p>
<p>My experience on both sides has allowed me see most of the mistakes printed here, and journalists&#8217; mistakes as well: dishonest, arrogant, stupid, stubborn&#8230; they have their share too. But you don&#8217;t need to be told that, do you?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that as a PR person you are quite fine and do not repeatedly perpetuate the mistakes described here. </p>
<p>Of course you can smile at some of the mistakes decriibed and that you&#8217;re sure not to commit. That does not mean this blog is useless for you: . showing this blog to your clients is also a useful tool that you can use in some desperate cases, where all your huge efforts on educating your client simply have no effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Surekha Pillai</title>
		<link>http://proprtips.com/2009/07/02/tip-119-the-bigshot-will-see-you-now/#comment-725</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Surekha Pillai]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello Brad, I hope that comment earns you some brownie points from Rafe - more strength to you! 

You might want to link your comment/name to your website so that I can identify you better. And no, this is my first tryst with this blog - anyone smart enough would have realised that, as also what it was that I was taking objection to (and clearly, Rafe got my point as evident from his last comment).  And finally, if you work for the PR industry, then this blog is beginning to make sense to me. 

It is not that I am blind to problems plaguing the industry (read my comment here, if you have the time or the inclination: http://bit.ly/dvzkf ), my problem was with the non-stop badgering of PR execs without a word of appreciation for good work done by them, which I am sure you would agree can also be learnt from. I now understand the format of this blog doesn&#039;t support that and too bad I didn&#039;t give it more importance then when I was upset reading criticism after criticism.

You know what&#039;s really funny in all this. Sitting far away in India, none of this should really matter to me. But it did. And about your attempt at a weak jab - statement of me probably working alone, I would be happy to get you to meet my clients when you are in India next. 

I think I&#039;ll stick around for a while - do what you can.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Brad, I hope that comment earns you some brownie points from Rafe &#8211; more strength to you! </p>
<p>You might want to link your comment/name to your website so that I can identify you better. And no, this is my first tryst with this blog &#8211; anyone smart enough would have realised that, as also what it was that I was taking objection to (and clearly, Rafe got my point as evident from his last comment).  And finally, if you work for the PR industry, then this blog is beginning to make sense to me. </p>
<p>It is not that I am blind to problems plaguing the industry (read my comment here, if you have the time or the inclination: <a href="http://bit.ly/dvzkf" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/dvzkf</a> ), my problem was with the non-stop badgering of PR execs without a word of appreciation for good work done by them, which I am sure you would agree can also be learnt from. I now understand the format of this blog doesn&#8217;t support that and too bad I didn&#8217;t give it more importance then when I was upset reading criticism after criticism.</p>
<p>You know what&#8217;s really funny in all this. Sitting far away in India, none of this should really matter to me. But it did. And about your attempt at a weak jab &#8211; statement of me probably working alone, I would be happy to get you to meet my clients when you are in India next. </p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ll stick around for a while &#8211; do what you can.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://proprtips.com/2009/07/02/tip-119-the-bigshot-will-see-you-now/#comment-724</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 04:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Surekha,
Have you not learned from or enjoyed any of Rafe&#039;s posts? Why don&#039;t you write about those?

Anyone who has worked in PR for 15 years and can&#039;t identify with what Rafe writes about probably works alone.

I wish the best to you, but please go away.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Surekha,<br />
Have you not learned from or enjoyed any of Rafe&#8217;s posts? Why don&#8217;t you write about those?</p>
<p>Anyone who has worked in PR for 15 years and can&#8217;t identify with what Rafe writes about probably works alone.</p>
<p>I wish the best to you, but please go away.</p>
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		<title>By: Rafe</title>
		<link>http://proprtips.com/2009/07/02/tip-119-the-bigshot-will-see-you-now/#comment-721</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rafe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although it&#039;s probably clear to the people who have pitched me, I&#039;ll say it here anyway: I love my job, and I value PR, both good and bad. Good, because it makes my job at CNET easier, and bad, because it helps me laugh at the human condition -- that&#039;s the catharsis. 

Furthermore, all the PR mistakes that have made it into this blog are teachable moments, and I treat them as such. Yes, highlighting these moments stings, and I am often rude enough to offend the delicate, but lessons with an emotional payload are more likely to be learned. 

Victory is mine!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although it&#8217;s probably clear to the people who have pitched me, I&#8217;ll say it here anyway: I love my job, and I value PR, both good and bad. Good, because it makes my job at CNET easier, and bad, because it helps me laugh at the human condition &#8212; that&#8217;s the catharsis. </p>
<p>Furthermore, all the PR mistakes that have made it into this blog are teachable moments, and I treat them as such. Yes, highlighting these moments stings, and I am often rude enough to offend the delicate, but lessons with an emotional payload are more likely to be learned. </p>
<p>Victory is mine!</p>
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		<title>By: Surekha Pillai</title>
		<link>http://proprtips.com/2009/07/02/tip-119-the-bigshot-will-see-you-now/#comment-719</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Surekha Pillai]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Suit yourself - it&#039;s your toy! The &#039;That&#039;d be boring&#039; in your response says it all for me and is my victory. 

Finally, do you see me subscribing to your posts or twitter feed? No. So, I don&#039;t need you to tell me not to read your blog. You can reserve your rudeness for your cathartic posts. And yes, I also changed my mind about PR needing a break from you. I am happy we are able to provide you with what I am sure is a much needed outlet for whatever you must be going through (outside dealing with PR people!) 

Have a good day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suit yourself &#8211; it&#8217;s your toy! The &#8216;That&#8217;d be boring&#8217; in your response says it all for me and is my victory. </p>
<p>Finally, do you see me subscribing to your posts or twitter feed? No. So, I don&#8217;t need you to tell me not to read your blog. You can reserve your rudeness for your cathartic posts. And yes, I also changed my mind about PR needing a break from you. I am happy we are able to provide you with what I am sure is a much needed outlet for whatever you must be going through (outside dealing with PR people!) </p>
<p>Have a good day.</p>
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		<title>By: Rafe</title>
		<link>http://proprtips.com/2009/07/02/tip-119-the-bigshot-will-see-you-now/#comment-717</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rafe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I use this blog to vent about bad PR, not praise good PR. That&#039;d be boring. Most people who read this blog (which is not many, it&#039;s a small blog) find it both entertaining and educational. And I find it cathartic. Don&#039;t like it? Don&#039;t read it.

Give PR a break? Never!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use this blog to vent about bad PR, not praise good PR. That&#8217;d be boring. Most people who read this blog (which is not many, it&#8217;s a small blog) find it both entertaining and educational. And I find it cathartic. Don&#8217;t like it? Don&#8217;t read it.</p>
<p>Give PR a break? Never!</p>
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